Strategy for the game of Buttonmen. Maybe other buttonmen-related topics.
Saturday, December 23, 2017
Opening theory.
(A) do you think I was right to allow the auxiliary n(20)? I am definitely having second thoughts...
(B) what do you think my best move is in this position? I have a strong opinion, but I'm willing to consider arguments for other moves. (I've already made my move in this game)
A) I don't think it was necessarily a bad choice. You don't have any poison dice yourself, while irilyth has a rather large one, so it seems to me you'd be the one profiting from null dice.
B) I think I'd take his W swing die with your 10-sider and null die. This protects your d30 if I checked everything correctlly. It's not worth much so you don't lose too many points by taking it with the null die and you're rerolling the null die to take his poison die at some point later. Alternatively, you could take with your 10-sider and 4-sider but I'm pretty sure I'd take the W.
(A) I sort of agree and do still sort of think the taking the auxilliary was for the best, and I just love null dice computations in general, but this is messy. This game often plays out with the poison die being uncaptured at the end -- without the null dice, I can win if the 30-sided die is uncaptured OR if VonPinn's poison is uncaptured *and* my stealth die is uncaptured. WITH the null dice, it's harder to figure -- my 30-sided die is more likely to at least be nulled out, if not captured -- if it's captured and I'm forced to null out the poison, game over. If it's nulled out and I'm forced to null out the poison, then I'm playing a weak hand with my shadow and stealth dice. (B) Right, the key thing is to take the W-swing die. I used the 10-sider and X=4, but your argument for using the null die makes some sense.
2 comments:
A) I don't think it was necessarily a bad choice. You don't have any poison dice yourself, while irilyth has a rather large one, so it seems to me you'd be the one profiting from null dice.
B) I think I'd take his W swing die with your 10-sider and null die. This protects your d30 if I checked everything correctlly. It's not worth much so you don't lose too many points by taking it with the null die and you're rerolling the null die to take his poison die at some point later.
Alternatively, you could take with your 10-sider and 4-sider but I'm pretty sure I'd take the W.
(A) I sort of agree and do still sort of think the taking the auxilliary was for the best, and I just love null dice computations in general, but this is messy.
This game often plays out with the poison die being uncaptured at the end -- without the null dice, I can win if the 30-sided die is uncaptured OR if VonPinn's poison is uncaptured *and* my stealth die is uncaptured.
WITH the null dice, it's harder to figure -- my 30-sided die is more likely to at least be nulled out, if not captured -- if it's captured and I'm forced to null out the poison, game over. If it's nulled out and I'm forced to null out the poison, then I'm playing a weak hand with my shadow and stealth dice.
(B) Right, the key thing is to take the W-swing die. I used the 10-sider and X=4, but your argument for using the null die makes some sense.
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